Bill Brennan: Hi everyone thank you for joining us today. We will get right to it.
I just want to introduce Ryan Cartwright who plays Gary Bell on Alphas and Alphas premiers.
Ryan Cartwright: Hi.
Bill Brennan: So we're ready to open it up for questions.
Operator: And our first question comes from the line Kyle Nolan with No (R)eruns.net. Please proceed with your question.
Kyle Nolan: Hi Ryan thanks for taking time to talk to us.
Ryan Cartwright: You're welcome.
Kyle Nolan: Your portrayal of Gary is my favorite part of the show. Could you talk about how you decided on his mannerisms, his cadence and his accent and how you prepare to get into character?
Ryan Cartwright: Yes sure. Well I had luckily I was in a good position whereby I had a like a good month and a half from getting the role to actual production so I had plenty of time to do as much research as would make me feel comfortable stepping into Gary's shoes.
And it was great, it was really good fun just looking at a part of the world that you'd never seen before and also with autism if you research it enough you end up appreciating looking at the world through their eyes as well.
Basically I started with lots of documentaries, lots of movies and lots of like online blogs and stuff from autistic people talking about how they experience things and just reading the books like from (Daniel Pampett), (Temple Grandin) and (Oliver Sachs) and stuff. And the firsthand account stuff from autistic people in its true form really helped because it helped me understand the neurology behind it which gave me the grace to come up with the mannerisms and stuff myself knowing the reason I'd be doing them as opposed to just meeting someone and copying mannerisms.
Like towards the end they invited me to - I was invited to like go to meet a group of autistic people in the day like a camp or whatever but by that point I kind of didn't need to do it because I had already figured out Gary on his own and knew the reasons I would do certain things so it was really nice.
And I would just like pad around Toronto when I got up here, kind of walking around as Gary and doing the voice and stuff and reading poems and repeating things that people would say like with the (unintelligible) an stuff so yes it was just a really nice time to - it was a luxury to have all that time to get comfortable in his skin so that I'm super comfortable doing it now.
Kyle Nolan: Can you talk about some of the changes that we'll see with Gary this season?
Ryan Cartwright: Yes he's still petulant which I'm sure everyone will enjoy. He's still outspoken, I don't think that will ever change. But he's kind of making some different life decisions that affect that other alphas quite substantially like I think everyone knows now he flies the (Brewster) gang not just working at the office but he decides to move his mother's nest and descend on the office 24/7 and tries to make it his new home.
And also his continuance of trying to keep Anna's voice alive because when she died at the end of the last season it affected his deeply and made him question his place within the alphas and also kind of people's motivations which he's not very good at figuring out but it definitely once she died it made him question Dr. Rosen and the whole alpha phenomenon and his place within it and he wants to keep her voice alive and her message because it seemed to inspire him and seemed a bit more holistic to him.
Kyle Nolan: Great thanks, looking forward to the new season.
Ryan Cartwright: Cool I hope you enjoy it.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Renee Martin with Fangs for the Fantasy, please proceed with your question.
Renee Martin: Hi Ryan, thanks so much for taking time out today.
Ryan Cartwright: That's all right.
Renee Martin: I was wondering, there's been a big push by this Disability Rights Activist, to have disabled people actually play disabled roles because there's so few opportunities within the media. So I was wondering did any of that come in to play or did you consider this at all when you were thinking about taking on the role of Gary?
Ryan Cartwright: Well, I believe, I believe it was - there was an autistic person who auditioned for it. I think, I mean I think it depends on the role, you know, I mean, this is, you know, just being cast in a role and the business of getting a role and everything it's never fair to, you know, to anyone. I think that, you know, that does need to be, I think it did start, you know, like I say with this group since - I believe everyone deserves the opportunity to audition and to go in, but you know, I think the producers and stuff felt that I was right for the role.
Yes, I guess, I don't know it's a tricky one I think. I think you can have a little bit of both and, you know, if someone's a really good actor and they can do it then why not? But, at a certain point it's the business and the industry that would have to change and I guess why I feel good about it in a way, portraying Gary is that, hopefully it will open the flood gates for more, you know, neurodiverse people and disabled people to be considered. Because before it was - a lot of the autistic roles I've seen portrayed before were pretty much one note. And were, there were, you know, there was a lot of clichés out there.
So, I think that showing Gary that it's not - you don't have to write it like (unintelligible) every single damn time, hopefully people will just think about writing for more autistic people and, you know, disabled people as well. If there are other roles like that - that are being taken good care of.
So, I think the first step, that I guess Alpha's is helping is just showing a different side to autism and just more of a truer face to it. So, hopefully it will just - it will just create more - in roles I think that's where it would have to start. And then a lot of it's just, you know, if you're a good actor, if you can do it, then yes, everyone should have a chance, but then you got to get the role man. I'm always auditioning against skinny white kids, that's my battle.
Renee Martin: Thank you, I just have one more question. In the first season, Gary faced a lot of ableism and (unintelligible), particularly from Bill, but one of the things I like about it is that he always had a comeback and he was sure and assertive. Did you have anything to do with the fact that Gary always stood up in the face of the so-called benign oppression that he played?
Ryan Cartwright: No, there was a lot of it already there in the script. There was one specific moment last year that I was quite adamant about. When he was being bullied at school and the kid pushed him and called him a retard. And I think the original comeback that was scripted was just to say, "Oh, I'm not a retard…I'm autistic." And I was quite adamant that Gary should call him a retard back, because you live with those curses that you get off other people. And an autistic person should be able to fight fire with fire. The bully uses the R word. He’s the dickhead in that situation and he should have the same curse flying straight back at him.
I always wanted him to be just as confrontational and just as robust and throw it right back in their face. You know, because fuck them if they're going to lower themselves to that disgusting level. Then an autistic person should be able to fight back blow for blow.
I don't want him restricted, I guess because there's that danger people think, oh, he - if he's offensive himself then, you know, or that's what he's like.
Well no, he's a good guy. Good guys can swear too. So, I just felt a lot more comfortable making sure that he did stand up for himself and not just stand up for himself in an apologetic way. Let him be rude.
Renee Martin: Thank you.
Ryan Cartwright: You're welcome.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of (Kathy Huddleston) with (Blaster).com. Please proceed with your question.
(Kathy Huddleston): Hi Ryan thank you for doing this.
Ryan Cartwright: Hey, you're welcome.
(Kathy Huddleston): So when the season starts Gary's in a unique place, he's in prison and all this stuff is happening. It's really kind of a Gary story. What do you want to tell us about where Gary starts this season?
Ryan Cartwright: Yes he's in a worst place than prison. He's like in Building 7 and he's pretty much comatose because to control alphas who are bad there's a lot more moral flexibility that people believe they can take with them so they put like these chips in their heads which make them completely comatose and devoid of any personality and sense so they're pretty much like these neutered brain-dead zombies who just sit around and drool which is my natural state normally.
So yes he's in Building 7 for he was a little bit too disruptive because they wanted him to go and work with the other people over there, the government agents, but they didn't appreciate Gary's idiosyncrasies and he ended up lashing out and got in trouble. None of the other alphas knew for awhile until they have a little visit and they can just see him sitting there kind of gawping at the floor so Gary needs rescuing.
(Kathy Huddleston): So what would you say your biggest challenge was this season so far?
Ryan Cartwright: I just think keeping the consistency of the character and kind of not coming out of the character to get laughs because, you know, Gary he does change as time goes on but in a different way to everyone else and it's a lot more subtle.
So kind of Gary's arc has to be a little bit more concentrated and mainly just keeping his voice the same, the dialog and just how he would react to these different situations, just keeping a close eye on that like once again not wanting to abuse Gary's personality and where he is on the autism spectrum.
And then once he's like taken care of that and you know that he's character consistent then it's just all about coming up with funny lines on the day. I have to try to make the other actors and alphas laugh and just having - once you know he's like grounded then you can like inflate him with all this hot air and just watch him ascend and annoy everyone. So yes just that.
(Kathy Huddleston): Thanks a lot.
Ryan Cartwright: Oh you're welcome.